Chapter 119: Steve Toltz on refining writing rituals and raising ravenous readers

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What is your favorite novel?

It's a hard question. A big question! A question that makes most people hmmm for a while before they get to an answer. If they get to an answer! But I think I know mine. My favorite novel is A Fraction of a Whole by Steve Toltz.

First, the book came to me in an interesting way. I walked into wonderful indie bookstore Type on Queen Street West in downtown Toronto a couple days before my wedding to Leslie. I was looking for a good book to take on my honeymoon. (Insert obvious joke: "You wanted to read on your honeymoon?" But yes. I did. We did!)

I spent two or three hours with incredible bookseller Kalpna who painstakingly picked book after book off the shelf working through my way-too-long list of criteria: the book couldn't be too heavy, it couldn't be too *physically* large, but it also had to last the trip because I only had one tiny bag so, you know, it had to simultaneously be fairly dense. And it had to be fiction. And it had to be fast-paced. And it would be good if it was funny. And, and, and...

Well, Kalpna (bless her) kept pulling books off the shelves and I kept doing The First Five Pages Test to check every book for pace, tone, rhythm, style, and language. I must have flipped through a few dozen books before I ended up with A Fraction of a Whole by Steve Toltz. A book I'd never heard of! By a guy I'd never heard of!

Why? Well, the first sentence pulled me in: “You never hear about a sportsman losing his sense of smell in a tragic accident and for good reason; in order for the universe to teach excruciating lessons that we are unable to apply in later life, the sportsman must lose his legs, the philosopher his mind, the painter his eyes, the musician his ears, the chef his tongue.” I kept reading and it just took off from there. Piles of accolades littered across the jacket helped too: “Shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize”, "Finalist for The Guardian First Book Award", "Deserves a place next to The Confederacy of Dunces" (Wall Street Journal), "Soars like a rocket!" (LA Times), "A comic masterpiece!" (Ottawa Citizen) and on and on...

I fell deep into Steve’s Toltz’s absurd world of endless turns and surprise pearls of wisdom and spent years since then trying to land this interview with him! He is a deep and focused writer who is well off social media and doesn't do "the rounds" so it took some time. I emailed him some of my favorite lines from his books, sat in the front row to hear him speak at the International Festival of Authors, and waited -- just waited! -- for his next novel to come out so I could try again. And now it finally has...

Steve Toltz was born in 1972 in Sydney, Australia and he is the Man Booker-shortlisted award-winning novelist of three books including A Fraction of the Whole (2008), Quicksand (2016), and his newest Here Goes Nothing (2022). I personally recommend starting with A Fraction of the Whole because it was so deeply affecting to me and many folks I've recommended it to, but all three contain his wholly original sideways genius that constantly amazes and surprises.

Steve has lived in Montreal, Vancouver, New York, Barcelona, Paris, and Los Angeles and worked as a cameraman, telemarketer, security guard, private investigator, teacher, screenwriter, and, well, a lot more. I'm not sure he's right but he says in this interview: "If you want to become a novelist you sort of have to be a loser for a while.”

I was so excited to talk to Steve Toltz and we go deep on many things including: fear of death, Woody Allen, writing by hand in two-hour chunks, finding your voice, anonymity and success, Russian Literature, how to avoid quitting, how to start big projects, raising readers, books for boys, and, of course, the incredible Steve Toltz’s 3 most formative books.

It is my privilege, pleasure, and honor to share this conversation. As always, I'll be in your left ear, Steve will be in your right, and we pull up a chair between us for you to come on in...

Let’s flip the page into Chapter 119 now…


Chapter 119: Steve Toltz on refining writing rituals and raising ravenous readers

 

What You'll Learn:

  • What does fear of death make us do?

  • What are the different ways authors develop character in a novel?

  • What is the value of a reading list?

  • What is the connection between Woody Allen and Russian Literature?

  • What misconceptions do we have about classical literature?

  • What is Steve’s writing process?

  • What is the power of writing by hand?

  • What does it mean to write with your subconscious?

  • What is a writer’s voice?

  • How do writer’s deal with anonymity and success?

  • How do we not quit big projects?

  • How can we learn to accept criticism?

  • How do we separate the art from the artist?

  • How do you raise a reader?

  • What are the best books for young boys?

  • How can we reclaim our focus?

Notable quotes from steve:

“We want to be understood, but as soon as somebody labels us we kind of struggle against it.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“The most negative thing we put out into the world is indifference, it is the fact of not helping people when we could.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“I have a beginning point and an end point, but I have no idea what the journey is. That is the process.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“When I was writing Quicksand, I think I spent three years on page one, and all of those page ones are in the book in different places.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“I just have to pick up any book that I love, read one sentence and I'm fired up to write.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“When I read an author that I love, I want to know what they loved. I wanna know how they became the writer that they were.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“Voice is usually an alter ego.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“If you wanna become a novelist, you just sort of have to be a loser for a while.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“It takes a while for talent to catch up with ambition.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“The hourly wage of a novelist puts a sweat shop to shame.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“Ignore your contemporaries and just never stop reading.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

“Deep focus is the coin of the realm and that is the thing that is being lost and chipped away at. You have to fight to get your focus back. Put your technology away in another room and read.” Steve Toltz #3bookspodcast

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