Chapter 32: Cat and Nat on cutting the crap to create community for courageous caregivers

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My wife and I drove to Nat’s house in Toronto to interview Cat and Nat.

My wife and I drove to Nat’s house in Toronto to interview Cat and Nat.

Are you one of the million-plus people who follow Cat and Nat online? (@catandnat on every social.)

Cat and Nat are moms of seven (!) children together and they are attempting to give moms permission, help moms be heard, and rid the world of mom guilt and mom shame. Oh! And they’re the bestselling authors of Mom Truths: Embarrassing Stories and  Brutally Honest Advice on the Extremely Real Struggle of Motherhood.

I first met Cat and Nat at their show in Saskatchewan. Yes, I am standing inside a giant wine glass.

I first met Cat and Nat at their show in Saskatchewan. Yes, I am standing inside a giant wine glass.

How did I stumble upon these two badass, R-rated, intellectually flamboyant and passionate women?

Well, I was wandering around the prairies (Regina, Saskatchewan to be specific) when I stumbled on their show at a casino across from my hotel. Stumbled upon is an understatement given that a thousand women wearing tight leather pants and swishing white wine almost trampled me. I found myself watching their incredible stage show, keeping the audience in stitches, and just putting their finger on this giant invisible stress that so many moms feel … and helping that stress go away.

This is the first chapter since Chapter 1 of 3 Books where I have brought my wonderful wife (and mother of three boys!) Leslie. 

Our podcast booth!

Our podcast booth!

In this chapter, we discuss parenting, motherhood, the pressures we put on ourselves to raise these perfect children, and why those pressures could be harming us and our expectations of our kids.

Join me, my wife Leslie, Cat, and Nat as we hang out in Nat’s living room to have this important and honest conversation on Nat’s beautiful white couch. And, of course, to uncover Cat and Nat’s three most formative books.

I hope you enjoy this chapter.

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What You'll Learn:

  • Why should we empower our children to make their own decisions?

  • How can we teach children about the consequences of their choices?

  • Why should you pursue marriage counselling before getting married?

  • How can we learn to let go of the guilt and shame we feel surrounding parenting?

notable quotes from cat and nat:

“We give people permission to have fun.” @CatandNat #3bookspodcast

“Girls are losing confidence at the age of 9 for a reason. It’s because of how we’ve shaped the world.” @CatandNat #3bookspodcast

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